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对话莫言:扎根生活 讲好故事

对话莫言:扎根生活 讲好故事

2020年08月18日 04:42 来源:人民日报参与互动参与互动

  扎根生活 讲好故事(创造性转化创新性发展纵横谈)

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河北快三  YIGEWENXUEJIASHOUXIANSHIYIGEDUIBENMINZUYUYANZUOCHUGONGXIANDEYUYANXUEJIA,TAFENGFULEWOMENDEMUYU,SHIWOMENDEMUYUGENGDAIGANQINGSECAI,GENGYOUBIAOXIANLI,GENGWANZHUAN、GENGMEIHAO

  作家要在广阔的天地间开辟出一个属于自己的阵地,扎进这片供他生长的土壤,让自己的根系发达、蓬松,源源不断地吸收营养,长成不一样的风景

  ZHEIXIEXINSHENGHUO,ZHEIXIEXINJINGYAN,WEIWOMENTIGONGLEGUANZHAONEIXINDEXINJIAODU,TONGYANG,WOMENNEIXINDEXINJIAODUYINENGFAXIANSHIWUDAODIXINZAIHECHU,ZHEIYEXUJIUSHIXINDEWENXUE

  JIANGGUSHIDEMUDESHIXUNZHAOZHIYIN,BUJINSHIZHONGGUODEZHIYIN,YEBAOKUOSHIJIEDEZHIYIN。BAGUSHIJIANGHAOZUIZHONGYAODESHIZHENCHENG、ZHENSHI,ZHEIYANGDEZUOPINCAINENGGOUBEIGENGDUODUZHESUOLIJIE,CAINENGDADONGTAMEN、YINGXIANGTAMEN

  “打铁要低后手,写小说也要低后手”

  JIZHE:NIDEZAOQIXIAOSHUOTIANMAXINGKONG、NONGMOZHONGCAI,ZUIXINXIAOSHUOJI《WANSHUDEREN》GENGJIAPINGSHIPOSU,WEIWEIDAOLAI,JINJINQIANYINDUZHEDEZHUYILI。XUANLANZHIJIGUIYUPINGDAN,XIAOSHUOYISHUFENGGEBIANHUABEIHOU,BANSUIZHEZENYANGDECHUANGZUOLINIANZHUANBIAN?

  MOYAN:SHENGWUBUDUANSHENGZHANG,ZUOJIAYEBULIWAI。NIANQINGDESHIHOUJIQINGPENGPAI,HUOSHINUHUOWANZHANG,HUOSHIROUQINGWANZHONG,DAIZHEYIZHONGKUAZHANGDEDONGXIJINXINGYISHUCHUANGZAO。SUIZHEDUGUODESHUYUELAIYUEDUO,JIANGUODERENYUELAIYUEDUO,JINGLIDESHIQINGYUELAIYUEDUO,YUENENGYONGGENGJIACHENGSHUPINGHEDETAIDUGUANCHAHELIJIESHIWU,QUANMIANKEGUANDICHENGXIANYAOXIEDEXIANSHI。

  GUOQUYUYANSHANGZUIXIHUANNONGMOZHONGCAI,DALIANGDISHIYONGXINGRONGCI,XUANRANZIJIDEGANSHOU。XIANZAIJUEDEGUODUODEXINGRONGCIHEMIAOXIEHUICHENGWEILIJIEGUSHIHERENWUQINGGANDEZHANGAI,FANDAOSHIPINGDANPOSHIDEYUYANGENGNENGZHIRURENXIN。DUIQINGJIEDECHULIYESHIZHEIYANG,GUOQUHUIZHUAZHUMEIYIGE“YOUXI”DEQINGJIEDAJIAXUANRAN,HENDUODIFANGBAHUASHUOJIN,XIANZAISHIHUADAOBIXIALIUQIFEN,ZHISHUOSANFENHUA,YUELAIYUETIHUIDAOHAIMINGWEI《LAORENYUHAI》LILAOYUFUGENYIQUNQUNSHAYUBODOUSHINEIZHONGBAIMIAOSHIDEMIAOXIEGENGYOULILIANG,GENGNENGJIDUZHELIUXIAGUANGKUODEZAICHUANGZUOHEXIANGXIANGDEKONGJIAN。

  WO18SUISHIGENYIWEILAOSHIFUZUOXUETU,DATIESHITADUIWODETIXINGJIUSANGEZI:DIHOUSHOU。HOUBIANZHEIZHISHOUYAODIXIALAI,CHUIMIANCAINENGPINGZHENGDILUODAOTIESHANG,RUGUOHOUSHOUGAO,CHUIMIANGENTIEJIECHUSHIYOUJIAODUDE,ZUOGONGMIANJIUXIAOLE,XIAOLVDIERQIECHUIBUPING。WOLAOWANGBULEZHEISANGEZI,GANSHIJIUXIANGDATIEYIYANG,XINTAIFANGPINGCAINENGBASHIZUOHAO;XINTAIFANGBUPING,LAOSHIQIAOZHE、XIEZHE,SHISHIGANBUHAODE。DATIEYAODIHOUSHOU,XIEXIAOSHUOYEYAODIHOUSHOU。

  “把锤炼具有鲜明风格的语言当作毕生功课”

河北快三  JIZHE:100DUONIANLAI,DIANYING、DIANSHIDENGXINYISHUMEIJIECENGCHUBUQIONG,SHUZIHUA、HULIANWANGDENGXINCHUANBOJISHUYIRIQIANLI,WENXUE“JIANGGUSHI”DEGONGNENGYIDINGCHENGDUSHANGBEISHITINGYISHUSUOQUDAI,ZHEIZHONGXINDEMEIJIEGEJUCUSHIRENMENSIKAO:WENZIDEYOUSHIZAINALI?WENXUEDUYOUDEMEILISHISHENME?

  MOYAN:JIANGGUSHISHIXIAOSHUOCUNZAIDEZUIJIBENDELIYOU,DANYAOBAGUSHIJIANGDEYINRENRUSHENG、YUNWEIWUQIONG,QUESHIDAYOUXUEWEN。JISHISHANGLIANGGESHUOSHURENSHUOTONGYANGYIDUANSHU,XUANNIANDIECHU、HUOLINGHUOXIANDENEIWEITONGCHANGMENTINGRUOSHI,PINGPUZHIXU、YUYANGANBADENEIWEIDUOBANMENKELUOQUE。XIANGBIYUQITAYISHUMENLEI,WENXUEZHISUOYIBUKEQUDAI,GUANJIANZAITADEYUYANMEILIHEJIANGSHUJIQIAO。LUXUNXIAOSHUOKEYIFANFUYUEDU,TANGSHISONGCIKEYIZAISANYINSONG,YINWEIMEICISONGDUDOUHUICHANSHENGSHENMEIYUYUE。ERYIBUYOUXIUXIAOSHUOFANYICHENGWAIWENQUESHAORENWENJIN,HENKENENGSHIYIZHEZHIFANYILEGUSHI,BAYUYANDEYUNWEIDIUDIAOLE。

  ZUOJIAYINGGAIYOUQIANGLIEDEYUYANZHUIQIU,BACHUILIANJUYOUXIANMINGFENGGEDEYUYANDANGZUOBISHENGDEGONGKE。JINLIANGRANGZIJIDEYUYANGENGZHUNQUE、GENGCHUANSHEN,NENGGOUZAIYIGEXINDEYONGFALI,RANGHENPUTONGDECIHUANFACHUTANEIZAIDEGUANGMANG,DADAONENGBEIRENLIJIEQUEBUCHANSHENGQIYIDEMOSHENGHUAXIAOGUO。RUGUONIDEGUSHIGOUHAO,XUSHIDEJIQIAOGAOMING,YUYANBENSHENYEFEICHANGYOUMEIGAN,NEIMENIDEXIAOSHUOJIURONGYIBEIGENGDUODEDUZHESUOJIESHOU。

  ZUOWEIWENXUEGONGZUOZHE,WOMENHAICHENGDANZHEYIGETEBIEZHONGDADEZEREN,JIUSHIFENGFUHEFAZHANWOMENMINZUDEYUYAN。YIGEWENXUEJIASHOUXIANSHIYIGEDUIBENMINZUYUYANZUOCHUGONGXIANDEYUYANXUEJIA,TAFENGFULEWOMENDEMUYU,SHIWOMENDEMUYUGENGDAIGANQINGSECAI,GENGYOUBIAOXIANLI,GENGWANZHUAN、GENGMEIHAO。NIXIANGXIANGLUXUN、LAOSHE、ZHUZIQING……WOMENXIANDAIHANYUJIUSHIZAIZHEIXIEWENXUEDASHIDEJINGDIANZUOPINJICHUSHANGGOUJIANHEFENGFUQILAIDE,TAMENDEZUOPINGOUCHENGLEXIANDAIHANYUDEJISHI。

  “在邮票大的乡土上挖一口深井”

河北快三  JIZHE:ZHENGRULUXUNXIAOSHUOLIDE“LUZHEN”,LAOSHEBIXIADE“BEIPINGCHENG”,NIDEXIAOSHUOLIYOUYIGEYONGYUANDE“GAOMIDONGBEIXIANG”,CONGSHICHUANGZUOJISHINIANLAI,NIBUDUANBAZHEIGE“YOUPIAODAXIAODEDIFANG”JIANGJIGUONEIWAIDUZHE,ZUOJIADE“GUXIANG”JIUJINGYOUSHENMEMEILI,XIYINZHENEIMEDUODUZHE?

河北快三  MOYAN:YOUDEZUOJIAYIBEIZIXIETAYOUPIAONEIMEDADEYIKUAIXIANGTU,QUEWACHUYIKOUSHENJING,MAOCHUWANGSHENGDEQUANSHUI。SHOUCIQIFA,WOSHENGFACHUYIGEXIONGXIN——BA“GAOMIDONGBEIXIANG”ANFANGZAISHIJIEWENXUEDEBANTUSHANG。SHIJIEDITUSHANGHENNANZHAODAOZHEIGEDIFANG,DANZAISHIJIEWENXUEDITUSHANG,YINGGAIYOUYIGE“GAOMIDONGBEIXIANG”。

  XIANSHIDEXIANGTUSHIGEN,WENXUEDEXIANGTUSHUNZHEZHEITIAOGENBUDUANSHENGZHANG。JIAXIANGYANGYULEZUOJIA,YEYANGYULEZUOJIADEWENXUE。ZUOJIASHENGYUSI、ZHANGYUSI,HELEZHEIGEDIFANGDESHUI,CHILEZHEILIDEZHUANGJIAZHANGDACHENGREN。ZAIGAOMIDONGBEIXIANGWODUGUOLEWODEQINGSHAONIANSHIQI,ZAIZHEILIJIESHOUJIAOYU,LIANAI、JIEHUN、SHENGNV,RENSHIWUSHUDEPENGYOU,TINGGUOWUSHUDEGUSHI,ZHEIXIEDOUCHENGWEIWOHOULAICHUANGZUODEZHONGYAOZIYUAN。DANZUOJIADEZHENSHIGUXIANGHETABIXIADEGUXIANG,QUBIESHIHENDADE。YIGERENYAOLIANXUDIXIEZUO30NIAN,GERENJINGYANWULUNDUOMEFENGFU,DOUHUIHENKUAIHAOJIN,ZHEIJIUXUYAOBUDUANKAIKUOSHENGHUOMIAN,YIGENGJIABAORONGDEYANGUANGLAIKANDAIGEZHONGGEYANGDERENHESHI,BUDUANDICONGWAIBUSHIJIEJIQUXIEZUODESUCAI——BABIERENDEJINGLIBIANCHENGZIJIDEJINGLI,BABIERENDEGUSHIDANGZUOZIJIDEGUSHI,ZAIJIASHANGZIJIDEJIAGONGXIANGXIANG,SHICHUANGZUOCHENGXIANCHUGENGJIAFENGFUDUOCAIDEQIXIANG,BINGXINGCHENGZIJIDEWENXUESHIJIE。

  JIZHE:ZHENGRUNISUOSHUO,MEIGEZUOJIADEJINGYANDOUSHIYOUXIANDE,MEIGEZUOJIADOUBUXIWANGZHONGFUZIJI、ZHONGFUBIEREN,ERSHIXIWANGYOUSUOCHUANGXIN、YOUSUOTUPO。

河北快三  MOYAN:ZHEISHIYIGEZUOJIAYIBEIZIDESHIQING。

  CHUANGXINSHOUXIANLAIZIXINDESHENGHUOHEXINDERENWU。ZAOXIENIANWOZUOHUOCHECONGGAOMIHUIBEIJING,XUYAOSHIJIGEXIAOSHI,XIANZAIZHIYAOSIGEXIAOSHI。GUOJIAFAZHANHENKUAI,SHEHUIYEFASHENGHENDADEBIANHUA,GUOQUWOZUOPINLIMIAOXIEDEHENDUOXIANGCUNRENWUXINGXIANGYIJINGTUICHULELISHIWUTAI,ERYIPIJUYOUSHIDAIGANDENIANQINGDERENWUXINGXIANG,CHUXIANZAIXIANGCUN、CHENGSHIYIJIGEGELINGYUDEWUTAISHANG,ZHEIJIZUOJIATIGONGLEFEICHANGBAOGUIDE、FENGFUDE、DUOYANGXINGDECHUANGZUOZIYUAN。ZUOWEISHENGHUODEYISHUFANYINGZHE,ZUOJIAHUICHANSHENGHENDUOXINDEXIANGFA。

河北快三  SHUOQICHUANGXIN,WOXIANGQIZUOJIASHITIESHENGYIJUHUA:XINDEJIAODUJUEDINGYUXINLINGDEGUANKAN。ZHEIHUATINGQILAIYOUDIANRAO,QUEYIWEISHENZHANG。MEIGERENDOUYOUZIJIKANWENTIDEJIAODU,YIBANRENKANWENTIDEJIAODUBIJIAOGUHUA,DANZUOJIAKANWENTIDEJIAODUYINGGAIQIANBIANWANHUA。XIEZUOZHEXINYANERYIDINGYAOHUOFAN。SUOWEIHUOFAN,JIUSHIBUDUANDIDIAOZHENGJIAODU,JIJIEZHUWAIWUGUANZHAONEIXIN,YOUJIEZHUNEIXINGUANZHAOWAIWU。ZHEIXIEXINSHENGHUO,ZHEIXIEXINJINGYAN,JIWOMENTIGONGLEGUANZHAONEIXINDEXINJIAODU;TONGYANG,WOMENNEIXINDEXINJIAODUYINENGFAXIANSHIWUDAODIXINZAIHECHU。ZHEIYEXUJIUSHIXINDEWENXUE。

  “人类共通情感是艺术交流的心理基础”

河北快三  JIZHE:NIDECHUANGZUODUOQUCAIXIANGCUNSHENGHUOHEMINJIANWENHUA,SHOUDIFANGXIQUDENGMINJIANYISHUYINGXIANGHENSHEN,TONGSHINISHANGSHIJI80NIANDAIZAIWENTANZHANLUTOUJIAODESHIHOU,ZHENGZHIGAIGEKAIFANGCHUQI,SHOUDAOSHIJIEWENXUECHAOLIUDEYINGXIANG。

  MOYAN:WOMENZHEIYIDAIZUOJIASHIYANZHELUXUNKAIPIDEDAOLUWANGQIANZOU,CAOXUEQIN、PUSONGLING、BAJIN、LAOSHE、ZHAOSHULI、TUOERSITAI、TUGENIEFU、BAERZHAKE、YUGUODOUSHIWOBUCENGMOUMIANDE“DAOSHI”。GAIGEKAIFANGHOU,LAMEIWENXUECHUANDAOZHONGGUO,DUIWOMENZHEIXIE80NIANDAIKAISHIXIEZUODEZUOJIACHANSHENGLEZHONGDAYINGXIANG。DANWOHENKUAIJIUQINGXINGRENSHIDAO,DUIWAIGUOWENXUEDEXUEXIBUNENGZHIYUMOFANG,ZHENZHENGDEJIEJIANSHIBULIUHENJIDE。GENGZHONGYAODESHI,ZHONGGUOZUOJIAYAOCHUANGZAOZHONGGUODEWENXUE,BIXUJIEHEZHONGGUODELISHIHEXIANSHI,YAOZAIZHONGGUODELISHIWENHUALIXUNGEN,YEYAOZAIXIANSHISHENGHUOZHONGXUNZHAOFENGFUDESUCAI,ZHIYOUBUDUANDIXIANGSHENGHUOSUOQU,CAINENGHUODEQUZHIBUJINDECHUANGZUOZIYUAN。

河北快三  WOMENYAOYOUJINMITIEJINXIANSHIDEREQING,YEBUNENGRANGSHENGHUOBAWOMENYANMEI,YAOCHENXIAQUZAITIAOCHULAI,ZHEIYANGCAIJIEDIQIYOUYOUGAODU。DAODISHENMESHIYIGEZUOJIADEGAODU?HAOZUOPINLIMIANYOUWEILAI。ZUOJIASUZAODERENWUXINGXIANGNENGRANGRENGANSHOUDAOYIZHONGCHAOYUEDANGXIADEDONGXI,TAJIUSHIYOUSIXIANGGAODUDE,JIBIANTAZIJIBINGMEIYOUMINGQUEDIRENSHIDAOZHEIYIDIAN。CAOXUEQINZUOWEIFENGJIANSHIDAIPOBAIDAJIAZUDEHOUDAI,TADEZHUGUANLIYISHIYAOWEITASHIQUDEFANHUA、FUGUICHANGWANGE,DANTABUZIJUEDISUZAOLEXIANGJIABAOYU、LINDAIYUZHEIYANGFANKANGFENGJIANWENHUA、JUYOUNANNVPINGDENGSIXIANGDERENWU,TIXIANCHUCHAOYUENEIGESHIDAIDEJINBUXING,ZHEIJIUCHENGWEI《HONGLOUMENG》DEGAODU。

  ZUOJIAYAOZAIGUANGKUODETIANDIJIANKAIPICHUYIGESHUYUZIJIDEZHENDI,ZHAJINZHEIPIANGONGTASHENGZHANGDETURANG,RANGZIJIDEGENXIFADA、PENGSONG,YUANYUANBUDUANDIXISHOUYINGYANG,ZHANGCHENGBUYIYANGDEFENGJING。ZHEIJIUXUYAOZUOJIAZIJUESHULIYIGESHUYUZIJIDE、DUIRENSHENGDEKANFA,JIANLIYIGESHUYUZIJIDERENWUTIXI,XINGCHENGYITAOSHUYUZIJIDEXUSHUFENGGE。

  JIZHE:ZUOWEIYIGEZAISHIJIEHENDUODIFANGDOUYOUDUZHEDEZUOJIA,NIRENWEIWENHUACHAYIZENYANGYINGXIANGWENXUEDECHUANBO?WENXUEZENYANGJIANGHAOZHONGGUOGUSHI?

河北快三  MOYAN:JISHINIANQIAN,WOJIDEMUQINJIWONVERWEIFANDESHIHOU,MEIDANGTASHENGYIKOUFANWANGHAIZIZUILIDI,WOMUQINDEZUIBAYEXIAYISHIDIZHANGKAI。HOULAI,WOFAXIANWONVERWEITANVERDESHIHOU,TADEZUIBAYEBUYOUZIZHUDIZHANGKAI。ZHIHOU,WOQUOUZHOUJIGEGUOJIA,YETEBIEZHUYIGUANCHAJIHAIZIWEISHIDENEIXIEMUQINDEZUIBA。WOFAXIANWULUNSHINAGEGUOJIADEMUQIN,TADEZUIBADOUHUIXIAYISHIDIZHANGKAI。ZHEIGEXIJIEJIUTIXIANLERENLEIGONGTONGDEQINGGANJICHU,YESHUOMINGWEISHENMEWOMENDEYISHUZUOPINJINGGUOFANYIYIRANNENGGOUDADONGREN。RENLEIDEMUZIZHIAI、FUZIZHIAIDENGJIBENQINGGANSHIXIANGTONGDE,ZHEISHIYISHUJIAOLIUDEXINLIJICHU。

  WENHUACHAYISHIKEGUANCUNZAIDE,BUTONGGUOJIADEYUYAN、LISHI、WENHUABUTONG,DAOZHIDUIRENHESHIWUDERENSHI、KANFABUTONG,SHENZHIHUIZAOCHENGYIXIEWUDU。JINGUANRUCI,RENLEIJIBENQINGGANSHIYIZHIDE,SHENMEIGUANNIANDABUFENYESHINENGHUXIANGLIJIEDE。WOMENDEZUOPINYIFANGMIANYAOYONGWENXUEDEFANGSHIBIAOXIANZHEIZHONGWENHUACHAYIHERENXINGFANGMIANDEDUTEXING,GENGZHONGYAODESHISUZHURENLEIJIBENQINGGAN,FAHUIWENXUEDETEZHANGXIECHULITIDEREN,YICIGOUTONGXINLING。

  JIANGGUSHIDEMUDESHIXUNZHAOZHIYIN,BUJINSHIZHONGGUODEZHIYIN,YEBAOKUOSHIJIEDEZHIYIN。BAGUSHIJIANGHAOZUIZHONGYAODESHIZHENCHENG、ZHENSHI。ZHENCHENGSHIZHENQINGSHIYIERBUSHIXUQINGJIAYI。ZHENSHIBUSHI“YIMAOQIANDENGYUSHIFEN”ZHEIYANGDEZHENSHI,ERSHIYISHUDEZHENSHI、QINGGANDEZHENSHI、XIJIEDEZHENSHI。ZHEIYANGDEZUOPINCAINENGGOUBEIGENGDUODUZHESUOLIJIE,CAINENGDADONGTAMEN、YINGXIANGTAMEN。

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